Not enough time for the air frame to ice up from steam. "B.S. "Yeah, no. If the visibility was .5 SM better than reported, then the pilot would have had approximately 35 seconds from breaking out to see and avoid the tower. So according to Jepp, the usable runway length is 3,787 feet. Thanks for posting that CVR transcript. Ever heard of a displaced threshold? A Cessna 501 Citation I/SP plane, registered N66BK, was destroyed in an accident near Smyrna Airport, TN (MQY), United States of America. )ADS-B shows ground speed, of course. She descended out of the clouds and was quickly enveloped in the steam cloud (as witnessed by people on the ground and by surveillance video). Even a slight gust can carry the rising steam from the potato plants six stacks into the 3.75 approach path. The plant releases huge quantities of hot water vapour through stacks, (industrial chimneys). Unless you are unable to. I am extremely sorry for her parents and other loved ones. The collision smokestack is 2,639' from the threshold (measured on Google Earth). As I mentioned in a comment above, the 4304' obstacle shown on the RWY 20 approach plate plan view is NOT any of the stacks at Gem State plant. FYI, the 4304' obstacle shown on the RWY 20 approach plate plan view is NOT any of the stacks at Gem State plant. A few days later, add 800 million to hurry it up. She was outgoing, welcoming, and Christlike. When I look at Google Earth and that smoke stack it obvious it was only a matter of time before that stack met a plane trying to make the runway. Louisiana are three of the apparent victims in a plane crash in Lefthand Canyon west of Boulder on July 17. The imgur caption has the correct runway number. The FAA also thinks the runways at Burley are short. If so, should have gone missed a second time. (Nobody commenting here so far has indicated that they looked closely and noticed the tolerance associated with specific obstruction records in the obstruction database, so it's time to shine a light on declared tolerances there. No, he did not fly away from the airport after declaring an emergency. Notice how the un-guarded ladder portion below the guarded portion of the ladder above the mid-deck platform is angled as a result of the top of the caged portion of the upper ladder having been pushed to the left.Pre-accident street view shows ladder system was straight:https://goo.gl/maps/tPdJ43wFNooD2PUX8, Viewing from ground level by opening and swinging around in these views provides additional context: Street view looking at RW20 centerline from 7th street that can be spun around to face the other way:https://goo.gl/maps/Mv4KYwWvVj7FTW2s5Street view showing another side view of stacks, single stack that is the subject of ladder discussion is at the far right:https://goo.gl/maps/Jfy1KdpC4Yfyiwu77, ^^ Corrected link for pre-accident street view that shows yellow ladder system was straight:https://goo.gl/maps/CqTD5vsKPo3e2cK99. . Our beautiful and beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, niece, cousin and friend will be missed more than words can express, but she will be in all our hearts until we meet again. 1 / 4. Accident Investigation report not yet completed, but information verified through authorities or other sources. She went on to graduate from ATP Flight School in Mesa, Arizona in 2019. [1] [2] The cause of the accident is under investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB). No experience on type but that seems like a big airplane for a little runway. Confusingly, the approach plate says "VGSI and descent angles not coincident", but runway 20 does not have any sort of VGSI at all! All seven occupants died, including diet guru Gwen Shamblin Lara and her husband, actor Joe Lara. Please keep in mind, comments on tragedies like these sometimes come from, and are seen by, people who knew them. The reported ceilings were well above the MDA, so unless you were sitting in the cockpit next to the pilot, you have no idea if they could make out the runway or not when they passed the MDA. If the obstacle surface allowed it, they would have put in an RNAV LPV approach to this airport instead of an LNAV, which would have been just as good if not better than an ILS. I will say that the analyses here have been very well thought out and thought provoking. Solo/Missed Approach/Marginal Conditions/Challenging Airport = High StressIt's the perfect setup for one of those 'undiagnosed preexisting medical conditions' that have been making the rounds these days with athletes.The coroner's report should be interesting - condolences to her family. Hiring requires vetting and training. A special automated weather report for BYI about the time of the accident reported 1 mile visibility in light snow and mist, broken layer at 2,300 ft above ground level (agl), overcast at 2,800 ft agl, temperature -3C, dew point temperature -5C, barometric pressure 29.96 inches of mercury. After the pilot report established at IREME, the controller cleared the pilot for the approach. The 3.75 degrees shown on the approach plate is the descent angle from the FAF to the TCH. Why not divert and avoid the known and just-previewed danger?Looking at known and possible "Not diverting this time" bias factors:- Known bias factors:1. There is a parallel expressway, I-20, beyond runway 24 - at that time of day it would have been crammed with bumper to bumper rush hour morning traffic with parallel lines of red and white lights, little dots repeating perfectly. That's a stark contrast not likely to be mistaken for anything else. Also, if the pilot intended the first pass to inspect the runway surface and conditions, they would not have slowed down as much as on the final pass. It increases the weight of the aircraft and changes the weight and balance. . If I have it wrong, please correct me. Close up photos clearly show that the tall stack with the yellow ladder was hit. Perhaps this was the pilot's first flight to Burley, or an infrequent stop?Other measures for safety and possible fatigue: No snake river or other possible, large visual cue in sight? Ice on the rotor and starter blades affects their performance and efficiency and may result in flame out. Plant info says it operates 24 hours, has been in operation since 2011.Presumably the NTSB is evaluating appropriate airspeed for the accident day combination of two approach exposures to potential mist and light snow airframe ice contamination, considering the minus 3 C / 27 F temperature reported at the airfield. Looking at where the airspeed decayed is there any possibility of a flameout?Igniters should have been on continuous. Their bond was unbreakable, and their most fun times were spent together, especially when traveling the world. I can't admire anyone for being in a GA aircraft at 95 years old. However, Brittneys favorite thing of all was flying. Additionally, someone posted where the chimney was located, about 100 feet to the left. So the only problem left is not arresting the descent rate. From the approach plate "RNAV (GPS) RWY 20 Burley Muni BYI": The approach path angle is 3.75 degrees. There are less than 4,000 feet available for landing. Yesterday's divert impact/scramble is fresh in dispatcher's mind.- Possible bias factors:5. Wind coming from 190 to 210 and the runway being on the 202, it necessarily follows that any plane flying that approach will be in the steam at one point.This is when the pilot lost visibility and decided to go around. She was so young and beautiful and now she is gone. The POH manual in most light singles states that you don't deploy flaps during an engine out until your aim point can be confirmed to be made just as in regular landing configuration when powered. With airlines short of pilots, why was this 30 year old college grad "COMMERCIAL PILOT Date of Issue: 1/3/2020" flying UPS 208 Grand Caravans? and both pilots followed provided vertical guidance as required for Part 121 aircraft even if the procedure results in a visual approach? Always remember the human side, and respect that a lot of people suffer greatly from a loss like this. I drove by there this afternoon and there is a stack to the right of the wreckage that is dented and the ladder is damaged. Also no PAPI on that runway so no way to determine her glidepath without visual references. Her last post on social media read Ive been flying so much lately I think I might be growing wings.. We are all guessing. Let me throw mine out there if I may:The simplest, a descent to MDA that was not arrested. One possible cause of a flameout could be the accumulation of ice and snow on the PT-6 turbine compressor section intake screen. According to reports, a single-engine Cessna 172 plane crashed on Thursday on the outskirts of Camp Kahdalea. 0:32. Easy enough to black out signatures.Was he given permission to take that marker light?You wouldn't think that an expert would expect a strobe light instead of the red marker to be placed that close to the airport, given the easy to find advisory circular guidance, as noted in a previous comment:http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2022/04/cessna-208b-grand-caravan-n928jp-fatal.html?showComment=1650238952384#c1446716018867091538. She was also trained in aerobatic flying, advanced spin training, and upset recovery training. FlightAware displays ground speed, not IAS, so you have to account for winds loft, which can be significantly higher than reported surface winds.3. The MDA & displaced threshold is for the obstacles near the approach. Not sure if runway lights would be on, since it was 8:32 AM MDT with sunrise an hour and a half earlier at 6:56 AM. Hi, thanks for the info and the link. Such a bad place for a 10 story tall obstruction :(, Here are 2 images of what ForeFlight synthetic vision would have shown at 4300' and 4560' (MDA) respectively https://photos.app.goo.gl/dHgeEAniT9PpWu3o7. Interesting read, what a tragedy. Besides, every "pilot" who mentions how "slow" an aircraft was flying based on these data have lost complete credibility and their opinions are not relevant. There is still data needed to determine amount of fuel in tanks. Loss of Control in Flight: Cessna 525C Citation CJ4, N614SB, fatal accident occurred . Every banality gets analyzed superficially and repackaged as advice or fear. Kathryn S Report Cessna 320d Executive Skyknight N320mf Registered And Operated By Gv Air Inc Fatal Accident Occurred June 28 2018 In Fairfield Utah County Utah BTW BOTH pilots on the above A300 reported the runway in sight - when it was hidden by a hill. She had a special gift for making everyone she met feel important, and her smile lit up every room. I think the witness is correct, based on my calculation as followsThe ASOS reported 1SM visibility. The Cessna 421 plane crash was just after 11 am local time this morning. It's nearly parallel to the runway. However, this data alone does not provide the basis for a determination regarding the. she went full power and still couldn't climb out of it. There is something definitely sticking above the top of the chimney on a yellow pole coming from the cage.While it will be interesting to see if the GPS or WAAS signal was degraded for the GPS RWY 20 approach, the pilot should have been in visual conditions./ME.
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