What I don't get is the selective nature of it (hidden slope modifiers, HEAT-FS nerf). And the overwhelming sense of hopelessness when the enemy team finds outhowithappened, that moment alone is to die for. Theirs only one stabilized apds atgm thrower and its premium. He can just wait till you start to cap and go around you. FW 190's can go for air targets and ordnance is sufficient to bomb a tank and strafe lights. And the Tiger 2s consistently bounce shells they are by no means slouches and have a thicker hull than the T series which will say no to most rounds that fly at it outside of apds which can be angled to avoid for the most part and or heat. You have to angleit correctly to make it work. More like genre savvy actuallyI know the score. Theres no reason why being put this tank agains opponents which pens it easy and having slow rate of fire to fight them. LORRAINE 40T AT 7.7?? That's a big if there, an M18 still isn't fast enough to out run a gun so its unlikely for them to survive long enough to retreat out of an ambushand flank you, heck even half of them that do make it out get blown up latertrying to flank you as they may become careless with hatred. With a particular fixation on the M18, German players often complain about German vehicles and how they lack the mobility of their Allied opponents. Are there plans to finally separate ww2 (and pre-ww2) vehicles from post ww2 (like vehicles made during the cold war and after) in battles? Thats why you will often see lack of initiative and decisiveness on German teams. Apds still has a low damage output. 5. Also since ground ai. Despite the complaints about Germany's WRs, they're not bad really. Your best chance would be using Japan yourself, Ah I see. The turret is ok, not the best, but gives the 76mm and 85mm some trouble. Isn't it also true that many of the people who play the soviet tree only play the soviet tree? Really? Get comfy and ambush them,you said it yourself he has five options give him a sixth one he forgot, two places they'll never look behind themselves or above themselves or I guess threeif you count beingfar away. Thats why you will often see lack of initiative and decisiveness on German teams. Armor is lolpened by DM33 and higher. As far as I know, nothing about that have been mentioned since it was "being worked on" back in 2017. If anything i insist you grind out to the T34 play about 100 games you'll tend to find that the two are rather close to compare. If you haven't noticed I'm implying being one/two steps ahead. interactions? Relative merit is in play here. I take the 110G into every BR range before radar SPAA. Meanwhile, what is expected of the high skill T__ player? warrior412, February 10, 2020 in General & Upcoming. At 6.7 the US T series are much more survivable when it comes to being hit. Yes, with an M18 I am also eaily killed from the front due to lack of armor. 4. While mobility has it's place, it's only one of the triad of armament, armor and mobility. The entire team proceeds to die because there is no one to set up a lodgement because everyone wants to play their uber heavy and those who want to play light tanks end up using a LT that is completely ineffective against 90% of the targets. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. You can pen various parts of the of them and can with apcr. The allegation is that because the Germans Tigers and Panthers cannot keep pace with the Americans M18s, the Russians T-34-85s and other like vehicles that the Germans simply cannot compete with these vehicles or the teams that use them. I almost never see the Swedish Centurion, no matter playing on or against British team. Just an endemic lack of knowledge of what assets are available to the Germans. It's very weak side armor also means that it's close to pointless to angle it, compared to the Tiger I. And no matter what is the br setting whatever times you get a new vehicle even at 8.7 you have to start the whole thing again. Same procedure as with Panthers. And here comes the issue with uptiers. Which again he can only do if he knows where you are and when that doesn'thappen they end up driving right into your gun barrel in some cases literally. Call me when it has the bombs and rockets just like the allies. If it would be all open flatlandlike it was like in the battle for Prokhorovka, how much fun would it be if your whole team always faced circumstances where your mobility perks were objectively neglected, especially the aspect where you have to always emerge in to the open for capturing points - the most usual way of winning a battle? If you spot him first and don't manage to kill him with the first spot you are dead even if he can't pen you from the front. Download Free PDF View PDF. Long 88 can one shot a T__ but in my experience you have to go for the shot trap, which is a risky shot. The basic problem with this grievance is that people figure they need to have a vehicle as fast as their enemies to win--you dont. It is however annoying still though. Maps in air battles are sometimes given to br.s that have no way of properly using them (I hear top jets get tiny maps sometimes) and low speed props get huge maps sometimes (even in jets some of the maps make no sense, why would I fly an Me262 for ten minutes to stress out about my 2 sec window to hit an a.i. Because heat rounds don't care about armor. From mud, through blood, to the green fields beyond. 20112022 Gaijin Games Kft. If you spot him first and don't manage to kill him with the first spot you are dead even if he can't pen you from the front. He will retreat and find a way around you. If you check old war images of M4 tanks, you will see that not all of them had turret mounted .50cals. Not sure why, maybe it's a new bug or there's a spall shield I'm unaware of, but it's really annoying. What? Scriptures from many world religions, science facts, safety & reminder tips, cuisine, sports, books, art, music, movies, TV. This is especially visible while on 6.7 when vehicles of the same tier can lol pen Tiger II upf. More to the point, your initial comment is THE biggest disconnect from reality that I've read in LONG time. Mobility - and this is actually the main point. Because they know that there will be most probably a trap when they arrive at the cap point. Sohow exactly do I do that? Sohow exactly do I do that? I just read this post and simply had to react because you draw all the wrong conclusions. Mobility is simply king in this game. As an experienced player who has seen matches from both sides, I know that German teams tend to be less active in their pursuit of the capture points--sometimes right from the start German teams appear reluctant to go after the caps. While it is true that many people, with all sorts of involvement in other trees, play Germany it is also true that many of the people who play the German tree only play the German tech tree. And the you said the atgms you made it sound like they were common place. Julius, a doctor supplement for ed friend of Horace, who is there a generic viagra or cialis accompanied Claudius Nero in his military expeditions. Manual Engine Control. The allegation is that because the Germans Tigers and Panthers cannot keep pace with the Americans M18s, the Russians T-34-85s and other like vehicles that the Germans simply cannot compete with these vehicles or the teams that use them. Eh, you can get the same effect with having a slow vehicle suddenly appear where no one expects it at a particular time, it also brings a more shock and awe effect as its victims try to fathem what they are looking at and how it gotthere, thegood times to be had Oh and by the way, many people do drive BT5s and M18 on high tiers because they are freaking fast and their guns can pen flanks of more modern tanks. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. Hardly an advantage. Meanwhile, a king tiger hull down has 185mm frontally(with no trolly double layered spots or crazy angles), 100mm on the sides and 80mm on the rear, and it's ammo is stored in the turret for an easy 1 shot. My general thoughts on what causes Germany to suffer: The Germans' main undoing are their teams--there's no doubt about it. Allied tanks have a thinner top armor in general than the German and Soviet tanks, which makes a high pen round not a necessary feature to get kills from the air. For the record, I am always sporting a tank only line-up in ground battles, I just hate planes and helis in ground battles. Noone does the same with panthers. While an M18s speed might allow it to get to a point a few moments before a Panther would, the M18s lack of armor and less capable cannon burden it if something like a Panther arrives shortly thereafter. His portfolio includes five books and several hundred historical articles.". Just look at the Tiger 1H how many Heavy Tanks at 5.3 can roll up to 45 almost 50Km/h. The Ju-288C is breaking the super prop part of the game, what solutions are likely to be tried to solve this issue (I understand if you can't really answer this one)? Powered by Invision Community, Addressing Germany's real problems: finding the truth behind "Germany suffers!". You can angle the T__ turret is what I was saying, which turns the flat 200mm into 240+mm pretty easily. The m41 is a welcomed addition. Are there plans to finally separate ww2 (and pre-ww2) vehicles from post ww2 (like vehicles made. Now the GER 6.7 lineup is missing a proper medium to counter some of the russian meds. The stock ammo for them is useless! Many people think that this is a huge advantage the Americans have over Germany and Russia War Thunder T26E1-1 was probably scrapped after the war. India. But to argue the tiger 2 has a worse hull than the T series is a joke. I'd certainly replace the Hs 129B-2/MK 103 if the Bf 110G was a Tier III vehicle. Pretty unfair that almost all US tanks have those AA HMGs. I am obviously a bit salty though, I've played basically every nation in WT except the USA so maybe I'm a bit biased. Two world wars and two pandemics are just a few of the many historic events witnessed by Sister Andre during her 118 years. The tracks make it immune to long 88 and actually work as spaced armor against HEAT. yes in the real world and on paper, but in a game where you play the same maps over and over again and know all the ways hideouts. But yes, if manage to get in a flanking spot undetected you can flank with it. Even then you aren't going to see UK tanks in 100% of your matches. Done. A COMMENTARY ON THE BOOK OF LEVITICUS - Bonar. The Panther by contrasthave close to no reverse. -ifa potential target learns the maps thisscenario can be avoided, - If the slow tank manages to guess the attack strategy of the faster tank he can setup and counter-ambush, - if there is position that overlooks the entire cap point and if you can reach it fast enough (so should be on your half of the map), - if you take your time to get to the cap point and the M18 doesn't use this time to simply cap. Oh definitely trade-offs are to be expected. Eh, the significance of this is overstated. Panther speedcross country on flat terrain is42km/h. And T are not impenetrable unless you're downtiered and there are spots you can go througg although theybare easily covered up. This line comes up in many venues and references many things--but what does it mean? Are there plans to restructure the the air br system or decomress the br. As for the Bf 110G, it is superb--it's only fault is that it's ranked as a Tier II rather than a Tier III. - During all that time you will be sitting in your spot hoping that the enemy pops up exactly where you predict it knowing that he could also pop up behind you. (well until last update and the introduction of M41). Which also has bombs as well. In an one on one battle with one cap point andrough, uneven terrain you will lose against the M18 in your panther 8 out of 10 times. June 1st, 2020 - panzer ii panzerkampfwagen ii pzkpfw ii sdkfz 121 was a light tank produced in germany in the 1930s until the outbreak of war between germany and the ussr tank . If they're not interested in moving the follow up question should be why they don't when in German vehicles. Isn't it also truethat many of the people who play the american tree only play the US tree? And as a you tube person showed in his video and based on the evidence presented its quite obviousEast Germany will carry Germanyand save top tier balance. Think a bit ahead. It's strengths clearly outweighs it's burdens when the game is based around city/village structures. Of course the thick armor and good gun can be an advantage. None of this is specific to Germany or the Americans mind you. Allied CAS is absolutely by far and away superior, only the 37mm armed Bf-110G is superior to allied cas, it's actually really good. While the M18 can reverse much quicker, it also lurches about far more. The rest including pz iv and pz 3 is pretty balanced in my opinion. It kind of creates this all-or-nothing theme, which is kind of sad if we're trying to have a serious discussion here. Armor profile is meh also and they are abit slower than the tiger 2s surprisingly. Apds isn't guaranteed damage actually put rounds through things and have done no damage on many occasions. With a few more wins per hundred matches, they'd be. Which is why its more rewarding when they pull it off as they had to put more effort into making it work and that's what people need nowadays a challenge. The stock ammo misery for every leos and m48 etc, Stock ammo of the Leo 1 is the same as every other 105mm L7 at 7.7. The majority of the 7.92 German ammunition types go seemingly unused in the game, especially all the high velocity variants of the bullets. You don't exactly want to pull a pivot turn when in city combat, with it's horrible side armor. When I played my 6.0s, uptiers to 6.3 and 6.7 were common but things worked out well. ..and I'm not talking about the vehicles, they're OK-ish. (and enjoy the performance of APCR). Want Germany to be more competitive at 5.3-6.7? "situational" any map with a rock, wall, or building allows you to take advantage of the stabilizer.
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